Who is the "Kavim" in Gita 8.9? | The Identity of KavirDev

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Who is the "Kavim" (The Poet) in Gita 8.9?

In Bhagavad Gita Chapter 8, Verse 9, the Giver of the Gita (Kaal Brahm) provides the "profile" of the Supreme God. He instructs the seeker on exactly who to remember during their final moments to achieve the highest state.

The Authentic Translation (Gita 8.9)

"He who remembers the Kavim (the Poet/KavirDev), the Ancient, the Controller, the one who is subtler than the subtlest, the Sustainer of all, whose form is inconceivable, and who is self-radiant like the sun, beyond the darkness of ignorance..."

I. Identifying "Kavim" as KavirDev (God Kabir)

In standard Sanskrit, Kavim is often translated simply as "the omniscient" or "poet." However, your site reveals the deeper, technical truth:

• The Name: Kavim refers to KavirDev (God Kabir).
• The Vedic Connection: The Vedas also refer to the Supreme God as KavirDev (Kabir), who appears in the world as a poet to deliver the Suksham Veda (true spiritual knowledge) through poems and couplets.
• The Distinction: The speaker of the Gita does not call himself "Kavim." He is pointing toward a separate personality who is the original author of spiritual wisdom.

II. The Six Qualities of the Supreme God

The speaker lists specific attributes that distinguish the Third Avyakt from the lower two:

1. Anushasitaram (The Controller): While Kaal controls 21 universes, KavirDev is the Supreme Controller of the entire infinite creation.
2. Puranam (The Ancient): He is the Primeval Purusha (Gita 15.4), existing before Kaal or the Trinity were ever manifested.
3. Anor Aniyansam (Subtler than the Subtlest): He is the soul of the soul. His power is so refined that he sustains every atom without being visible to the material eye.
4. Sarvasya Dhataram (Sustainer of All): He is the "Root" of the tree. Just as the root provides water to the furthest leaf, KavirDev provides life-force to every living being in all universes.
5. Achintya-Rupam (Inconceivable Form): His form cannot be understood by the mind or the three Gunas. One requires Tatvgyan to comprehend his divine human-like form in Satlok.
6. Aditya-Varnam (Self-Radiant like the Sun): He is not a "lightless" entity. He is as radiant as billions of suns, existing far beyond the "darkness" of Kaal's realm.

III. Why Remember Him? (The Goal of 8.10)

The speaker follows up in Verse 8.10 by saying that at the time of death, one who fixes their life-force (Prana) and remembers this Supreme Divine Person (Param Purusham Divyam) reaches Him alone.

The Logic for your Site:

• If you remember Kaal, you stay with Kaal (Rebirth).
• If you remember KavirDev (The Kavim), you go to the Supreme Abode (Satlok).

This is why finding a Tattvadarshi Saint is so urgent; only he can provide the correct name (Mantra) of this "Kavim" to keep in your remembrance.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

1. Why is God called a "Poet" (Kavim)?

God is called a poet because He delivers His message through oral speech and divine poetry. He does not rely on written books of the material world; He brings the Vani (Word) directly from the eternal realm.

2. Can we see this "Sun-like" form?

Not with material eyes as these eyes cannot tolerate the radiance of that God. The speaker says He is "beyond the darkness of ignorance." This means His form is visible only to the soul who has reached Satlok once it has done the true worship provided by a Saint.

3. Is this "Kavim" different from the Giver of the Gita?

Yes. The Giver of the Gita says, "He who remembers the Kavim..." He uses the third person, proving that he is talking about a Supreme Being who is above him.